Excellent reporting on this tragic story. It is the medical insurers who could end this insanity by refusing to cover what is unproven and harmful medicine. "Gender affirming care" is experimental medicine using confused children and youth as their subjects. A scandal of great proportions.
Incredibly sad. How could a doctor, or anyone else involved in this process, allow an inexperienced girl to imagine that what they were grafting on to her in any ways remotely resembles the genuine article? And it’s such a bizarre experimental surgery it’s no surprise it’s got such high complication rates. It shouldn’t be legal.
I couldn’t even read this whole article without feeling sick. How many precious lives will be ruined because parents trust the advice of professionals?
I feel like you’d HAVE to be deeply mentally ill to sign up for any of these experimental surgeries at all. Yes, Griffin was groomed at a young age to trust this system and sold a pack of lies. But you have to be in the midst of intense delusions with no healthy sense of self-preservation to get that far... let alone to keep believing in any of it after multiple waves of severe complications.
It’s not merely that Griffin had bad surgeons (although that’s true—I imagine few truly ethical doctors get into that line of work), but these procedures are still horrific to endure even in a best case scenario. This poor young person really deserved so much better, and likely would be alive today if we kept “trans affirming” healthcare away from minors.
This is so in depth and good. My daughter was influenced in the same ways in another state. You inspire me to look into them in depth and dig. Thank you for this. The activists don’t actually care about our childrens’ well being at all. Only their narcissistic moral superiority.
So sorry to hear about your daughter. ❤️ And you are right - they don't care. We've been watching this story and have yet to see any of the activists voice concern over what happened to Griffin (though some of them are quite mad that "trans phobes" are talking about it).
Recently, didn't the group representing plastic surgeons make a statement against "gender affirming care?" Puts the oath doctors take, Do No Harm, to shame.
What a tragedy. I’ve seen some of this poor young woman’s videos for a few years. It was always obvious that something terrible must have happened to her and that she was suffering a great deal. Only 24.
Thank you for reporting on this. Boston children's performed their first phalloplasty on a 24-year -old woman in 2018. The surgeon was the same - Dr. Oren Ganor. The patient also apparently had complications -bladder problems, blocked uretha...One surgeon from another center claims, "He expects incremental annual improvements in complication rates, in the range of 2 percent."
It would be interesting to know the stats on how many actually carry through with plalloplasty or vaginoplasty. From one study in 2021 in PRS Global Open, “After compiling the results of the update with the previous systematic review, a total of 57 studies pooling 4680 cases were included in the systematic review, and 52 studies were used in the meta-analysis. Overall pooled data including any surgical technique showed rates of 1% [95% confidence interval (CI) <0.1%–2%] of fistula, 11% (95% CI 8%–14%) of stenosis and/or strictures, 4% (95% CI 1%–9%) of tissue necrosis, and 3% (95% CI 1%–4%) of prolapse. Overall satisfaction was 91% (81%–98%). Regret rate was 2% (95% CI <1%–3%). Average neovaginal depth was 9.4 cm (7.9–10.9 cm) for the penile skin inversion and 15.3 cm (13.8–16.7 cm) for the intestinal vaginoplasty.” Lots of stats but not a risk or complication free set of procedures. No surgery is risk free so to submit healthy people to Frankenstein surgeries is insanity.
If you come across stats on how many carry through with genital surgeries, please drop them here. I suspect it's difficult to quantify because they are done in a variety of settings.
Thanks for your comment - although if you couldn't get past us "misgendering" Griffin, then you didn't read the article at all. If you had, you would have seen that Griffin went to a well-known surgeon at a reputable hospital. It seems you have allowed your distaste for our use of biological pronouns to keep you from reading and learning these facts for yourself, but that's your choice. We do hope you read about what happened to Griffin elsewhere, although we fear you'll have a tough time of it since the only people who seem to care about her death are folks you would likely dismiss as "transphobes." If you find any pro-gender-transition voices speaking honestly about Griffin's death, please feel free to come back and link their articles here.
Also trans, 13 years on, and a veteran, just not as old and I agree with the info this article is posting. Griffin was taken in to all of this way too young. Most likely autistic, and just kept running headfirst into the brickwall their life had become. Looking at their page is like watching someone slowly poison themselves . It's very reminiscent of Eugenia Cooney who assures her fans she's fine and that all the other are haters. Clearly transitioning did not save this young persons life
Do you promote under 18 being transitioned? A consenting adult can legally do what they wish and even though I’m a Christian I’m also libertarian. Your life, your choice.
Sharing Griffin’s story was a very emotional experience for us. We want her life and her story to matter. We worked hard to handle the story compassionately.
We are not your enemy. We actually have a great deal of empathy and compassion for you and for those struggling with gender identity issues. We are profoundly sorry for the pain you have experienced throughout your life related to this issue. You were created a female. Wonderfully and beautifully made. We care about the truth and we also care about people’s suffering. Robust studies and evidence affirm our position. You may not agree with us, but we will not stop speaking the truth, in the hope that some children may be saved from going down a road that causes them irreparable harm. We care about you and your voice, but if you are not able to stop insulting and threatening on this thread you will be blocked.
You are welcome. :) And you bring up an interesting point since 'informed consent' is now the standard for permitting surgeries like this, yet clearly in some cases it's not sufficient to protect vulnerable populations. Griffin no doubt gave 'informed consent' to the phalloplasty as a legal adult, but is it really possible for someone who almost certainly had their cognitive and emotional state impaired by other treatments received as a minor, to truly understand the impact of consenting to an invasive and essentially-experimental procedure as a young adult? I suspect that question will be answered via the court system, hopefully sooner rather than later.
After reading the work of Hannah Barnes on the GID program @ Tavistock (Time to Think) in the UK, pysch issues often accompanied these children coming for transition procedures. If you haven’t read her work, do so.
Excellent reporting on this tragic story. It is the medical insurers who could end this insanity by refusing to cover what is unproven and harmful medicine. "Gender affirming care" is experimental medicine using confused children and youth as their subjects. A scandal of great proportions.
I liken this barbarity to Mengele’s torture of humans including children in WW2.
Who knew being your authentic self could cost over half a million dollars.
Sincere condolences to those who are mourning the loss of this person.
That this story isn’t in the New York Times or the Washington Post is reprehensible.
Incredibly sad. How could a doctor, or anyone else involved in this process, allow an inexperienced girl to imagine that what they were grafting on to her in any ways remotely resembles the genuine article? And it’s such a bizarre experimental surgery it’s no surprise it’s got such high complication rates. It shouldn’t be legal.
I couldn’t even read this whole article without feeling sick. How many precious lives will be ruined because parents trust the advice of professionals?
And it all is looking equally opportunistic and predatory--from the groomers to the hospitals https://substack.com/home/post/p-147994275?source=queue
I feel like you’d HAVE to be deeply mentally ill to sign up for any of these experimental surgeries at all. Yes, Griffin was groomed at a young age to trust this system and sold a pack of lies. But you have to be in the midst of intense delusions with no healthy sense of self-preservation to get that far... let alone to keep believing in any of it after multiple waves of severe complications.
It’s not merely that Griffin had bad surgeons (although that’s true—I imagine few truly ethical doctors get into that line of work), but these procedures are still horrific to endure even in a best case scenario. This poor young person really deserved so much better, and likely would be alive today if we kept “trans affirming” healthcare away from minors.
This should be illegal!
This is so in depth and good. My daughter was influenced in the same ways in another state. You inspire me to look into them in depth and dig. Thank you for this. The activists don’t actually care about our childrens’ well being at all. Only their narcissistic moral superiority.
So sorry to hear about your daughter. ❤️ And you are right - they don't care. We've been watching this story and have yet to see any of the activists voice concern over what happened to Griffin (though some of them are quite mad that "trans phobes" are talking about it).
These are the professional associations currently supporting gender mutilation in kids.
American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry
American Academy of Dermatology
American Academy of Pediatrics
American Academy of Physician Assistants
American Medical Association
American Nurses Association
American College Health Association
American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists
American College of Physicians
American Counseling Association
American Heart Association
American Medical Student Association
American Psychiatric Association
American Psychological Association
American Society for Reproductive Medicine
American Urological Association
Endocrine Society
Federation of Pediatric Organizations
GLMA: Health Professionals Advancing LGBTQ Equality
The Journal of the American Medical Association
National Association of Nurse Practitioners in Women’s Health
National Association of Social Workers
Ohio Children’s Hospital
Pediatric Endocrine Society
Pediatrics (Journal of the American Academy of Pediatrics ) and Seattle Children’s Hospital
Texas Medical Association
Texas Pediatric Society
United States Professional Association for Transgender Health (USPATH)
World Health Organization (WHO)
World Medical Association
World Professional Association for Transgender Health
That is frightening when seeing them all together, and probably not even complete.
Not a kind face on this doctor:
https://www.emedevents.com/speaker-profile/oren-ganor
Recently, didn't the group representing plastic surgeons make a statement against "gender affirming care?" Puts the oath doctors take, Do No Harm, to shame.
Yes - you can read about that here: https://www.yahoo.com/news/american-society-plastic-surgeons-breaks-090018266.html
Thank God for reasonable humans.
Yes, they are to blame, and they need to be sued, big time! No limits on the amounts!
What a tragedy. I’ve seen some of this poor young woman’s videos for a few years. It was always obvious that something terrible must have happened to her and that she was suffering a great deal. Only 24.
Thank you for reporting on this. Boston children's performed their first phalloplasty on a 24-year -old woman in 2018. The surgeon was the same - Dr. Oren Ganor. The patient also apparently had complications -bladder problems, blocked uretha...One surgeon from another center claims, "He expects incremental annual improvements in complication rates, in the range of 2 percent."
https://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/2018/08/17/boston-childrens-transgender-surgery-phalloplasty-penis/
It needs to end and these docs brought to justice.
Great catch! Here's another article as well. https://www.wbur.org/news/2018/08/17/hogle-penis-trans-surgery
It would be interesting to know the stats on how many actually carry through with plalloplasty or vaginoplasty. From one study in 2021 in PRS Global Open, “After compiling the results of the update with the previous systematic review, a total of 57 studies pooling 4680 cases were included in the systematic review, and 52 studies were used in the meta-analysis. Overall pooled data including any surgical technique showed rates of 1% [95% confidence interval (CI) <0.1%–2%] of fistula, 11% (95% CI 8%–14%) of stenosis and/or strictures, 4% (95% CI 1%–9%) of tissue necrosis, and 3% (95% CI 1%–4%) of prolapse. Overall satisfaction was 91% (81%–98%). Regret rate was 2% (95% CI <1%–3%). Average neovaginal depth was 9.4 cm (7.9–10.9 cm) for the penile skin inversion and 15.3 cm (13.8–16.7 cm) for the intestinal vaginoplasty.” Lots of stats but not a risk or complication free set of procedures. No surgery is risk free so to submit healthy people to Frankenstein surgeries is insanity.
If you come across stats on how many carry through with genital surgeries, please drop them here. I suspect it's difficult to quantify because they are done in a variety of settings.
Hi Ray,
Thanks for your comment - although if you couldn't get past us "misgendering" Griffin, then you didn't read the article at all. If you had, you would have seen that Griffin went to a well-known surgeon at a reputable hospital. It seems you have allowed your distaste for our use of biological pronouns to keep you from reading and learning these facts for yourself, but that's your choice. We do hope you read about what happened to Griffin elsewhere, although we fear you'll have a tough time of it since the only people who seem to care about her death are folks you would likely dismiss as "transphobes." If you find any pro-gender-transition voices speaking honestly about Griffin's death, please feel free to come back and link their articles here.
Also trans, 13 years on, and a veteran, just not as old and I agree with the info this article is posting. Griffin was taken in to all of this way too young. Most likely autistic, and just kept running headfirst into the brickwall their life had become. Looking at their page is like watching someone slowly poison themselves . It's very reminiscent of Eugenia Cooney who assures her fans she's fine and that all the other are haters. Clearly transitioning did not save this young persons life
Do you promote under 18 being transitioned? A consenting adult can legally do what they wish and even though I’m a Christian I’m also libertarian. Your life, your choice.
King Ray, are you making threats against us?
Well, if you think violence is the answer, you’re wrong. You’ve never faced a parent protecting their child.
Sharing Griffin’s story was a very emotional experience for us. We want her life and her story to matter. We worked hard to handle the story compassionately.
We are not your enemy. We actually have a great deal of empathy and compassion for you and for those struggling with gender identity issues. We are profoundly sorry for the pain you have experienced throughout your life related to this issue. You were created a female. Wonderfully and beautifully made. We care about the truth and we also care about people’s suffering. Robust studies and evidence affirm our position. You may not agree with us, but we will not stop speaking the truth, in the hope that some children may be saved from going down a road that causes them irreparable harm. We care about you and your voice, but if you are not able to stop insulting and threatening on this thread you will be blocked.
Your tone here has been very aggressive. You have made several comments that could be perceived as threats.
You are welcome. :) And you bring up an interesting point since 'informed consent' is now the standard for permitting surgeries like this, yet clearly in some cases it's not sufficient to protect vulnerable populations. Griffin no doubt gave 'informed consent' to the phalloplasty as a legal adult, but is it really possible for someone who almost certainly had their cognitive and emotional state impaired by other treatments received as a minor, to truly understand the impact of consenting to an invasive and essentially-experimental procedure as a young adult? I suspect that question will be answered via the court system, hopefully sooner rather than later.
Thanks for this. That is depressing. Makes me feel hopeless
After reading the work of Hannah Barnes on the GID program @ Tavistock (Time to Think) in the UK, pysch issues often accompanied these children coming for transition procedures. If you haven’t read her work, do so.